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so why would mitch mcconnell propose such a bill? to embarrass the democrats. mcconnell wanted to prove that the democrats didn't have the votes for the legislation. senate majority leader harry reid called his bluff initially, putting the bill up to vote, but after discuss it with democratic member, reid got the support he needed and had a change of heart. claire mccaskill was presiding over the senate when mcconnell objected to voting on the bill. >> is there an objection to the original request? >> i'll object. >> objection is heard. i got whiplash. >> very strange. >> dick durbin reacted to mcconnell's unbelievable move moments later. >> so this may be a moment in senate history when a senator made a proposal and when given an opportunity for a vote, on that proposal, filibustered his own proposal. i think we have now reached a new spot in the history of the senate we have never seen before. >> let's turn to vermont senator bernie sanders, independent. i'm laughing at it too, senator. this just goes to show they are winging it big-time. they don't have a pl
so why would mitch mcconnell propose such a bill? to embarrass the democrats. mcconnell wanted to prove that the democrats didn't have the votes for the legislation. senate majority leader harry reid called his bluff initially, putting the bill up to vote, but after discuss it with democratic member, reid got the support he needed and had a change of heart. claire mccaskill was presiding over the senate when mcconnell objected to voting on the bill. >> is there an objection to the...
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mitch mcconnell yesterday proposed a vote on a measure that would give the president the authority to increase the debt ceiling without congressional input. this is something that the white house has proposed as part of their fiscal cliff proposal. it's a nonstarter for republicans. but he wanted to put it on the floor to show that even democrats don't support giving the president that kind of authority. he did that and harry reid turned around and said, let's see if we can do it with a simple majority for 51 votes and democrats it appeared had made sure they had that and then mitch mcconnell in return ended up objecting to the very thing he propose eed. take a listen. >> now the republican leader objects his own idea. i guess we have a filibuster of his own bill. >> so this was some maneuvering that went on. mitch mcconnell won the day when he proposed a vote overall on the entire fiscal cliff proposal and harry reid objected to it. it's a little bit of a back and forth going on in the midst of these talks that are now reopened. >> you can't filibuster your own bill. that makes no se
mitch mcconnell yesterday proposed a vote on a measure that would give the president the authority to increase the debt ceiling without congressional input. this is something that the white house has proposed as part of their fiscal cliff proposal. it's a nonstarter for republicans. but he wanted to put it on the floor to show that even democrats don't support giving the president that kind of authority. he did that and harry reid turned around and said, let's see if we can do it with a simple...
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. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell filibusters his own bill in the senate. bernie sanders joins us to talk about what that means for the future. >>> and fiscal cliff talks. stay with us. you're watching "the ed show" on >>> unemployment hits a four had-year low, but republican obstruction is keeping the country from creates more jobs. we'll bring you the latest numbers and i'll ask david cay johnston why now is the time to focus on job creation. >>> and the supreme court will hear two cases on same-sex marriage. we'll get the details from jonathan turly later on in this hour. share your thoughts on facebook and twitter. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." we have seen a lot of obstructionism from the republicans. trying to stop progress has z how they do business. latest move from senate minority leader mitch mcconnell just might take the cake. he threatened to filibuster his own bill. mcconnell proposed legislation to give the president the authority to raise the debt ceiling. under the plan, congress would need a two-thirds majority
. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell filibusters his own bill in the senate. bernie sanders joins us to talk about what that means for the future. >>> and fiscal cliff talks. stay with us. you're watching "the ed show" on >>> unemployment hits a four had-year low, but republican obstruction is keeping the country from creates more jobs. we'll bring you the latest numbers and i'll ask david cay johnston why now is the time to focus on job creation. >>>...
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you can bet mitch mcconnell was not unhappy he left. he feels he's not a majority leader because of demint is there. there's a lot of "ding dong the which is gone" sentiment. >> a lot of republicans up to mitch mcconnell the senate republican leader who believed they would be in the majority today if not for some of the candidates. >> on the right there's a little too much demoralization. even's so depressed on the conservative side, very similar to wait was like in the 2004 election when george w. bush was elected. i always caution, you know, people are conservative like me, look, republicans can make a comeback. they can win in 2014, 16. you shouldn't abandon your basic principle ps. >> mark, you guest the last word, the final 15 seconds. tea party, less government interferen interference, are those sorts of ideas fading? >> no. i think that's part of the experience. we have this constant historical batter going all the way back to that point. how much government do we want or don't want and i think this is just part of that battle. i
you can bet mitch mcconnell was not unhappy he left. he feels he's not a majority leader because of demint is there. there's a lot of "ding dong the which is gone" sentiment. >> a lot of republicans up to mitch mcconnell the senate republican leader who believed they would be in the majority today if not for some of the candidates. >> on the right there's a little too much demoralization. even's so depressed on the conservative side, very similar to wait was like in the...
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senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also distanced himself from the boehner plan declining to endorse it yesterday. >> we've wasted enormous amount of time here sparring back and forth in public, and it strikes me it's a good time to get serious about the proposals. so i have no other particular observation than i commend the house republican leadership for trying to move the process along and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> but why is the the gop still hot on its desire to raise money through cuts and deductions rather than an actual increase in the top end tax rate? well, i think it's likely because the most ductions in states happen to be the higher blue states. in other words, the gop wants the states that largely reelected the the president to bear the brunt of the financial burden for his plan. and while no deal has been reached yet, at least we have the blame game to keep us warm. a new "washington post" pew research poll shows 53% of americans say congressional republicans will be blamed if no deal is reached. only 27% said the president sh
senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also distanced himself from the boehner plan declining to endorse it yesterday. >> we've wasted enormous amount of time here sparring back and forth in public, and it strikes me it's a good time to get serious about the proposals. so i have no other particular observation than i commend the house republican leadership for trying to move the process along and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> but why is the the...
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mcconnell saying i think it was just demeaning for them to ask the treasury secretary to come up here and give a proposal like this and by this we have people saying it's a sham, it's -- you know, ridiculous, it's a nonstarter. when you went up there, you didn't think republicans were going to go "good idea." >> you know, what we're trying to do is get these guys to come together and reach an agreement that's going to be good for the country and good for the economy. >> by these guys you mean you all and the republicans. >> and democrats together. >> and the white house. >> that's what we're trying to do. what we did was put forward a very comprehensive, very carefully designed mix of savings and tax reforms to help us put us back on the path to stabilizing our debt and fixing our debt and living within our means. we've been very detailed about how to do that, both on the spending side and revenue side, and we think this is a good plan for the country, and it does the most important thing, which is it gives 98% of americans the certainty your taxes aren't going to go up, and it gives
mcconnell saying i think it was just demeaning for them to ask the treasury secretary to come up here and give a proposal like this and by this we have people saying it's a sham, it's -- you know, ridiculous, it's a nonstarter. when you went up there, you didn't think republicans were going to go "good idea." >> you know, what we're trying to do is get these guys to come together and reach an agreement that's going to be good for the country and good for the economy. >> by...
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mitch mcconnell filibustered his own bill. the senate minority leader filibustered his own bill that he had raised earlier about raising the debt ceiling. he called for a vote. democrats called his bluff and agreed to the vote. then he talked that bill to death. unusual here on capitol hill. lynn? >> all right, tracie potts there for us on capitol hill, thanks. >>> congressman chris van hollen of maryland spoke to ed schultz last night and discussed what democrats are willing to give up if speaker john boehner accepts ending tax breaks for people making more than $250,000 a year. >> what the president has said is we need $1.6 trillion as part of an overall deficit reduction plan, because if you don't get those additional revenues, but you also try and reduce the deficit, you end up whacking everybody else much harder. and so, it's really important to have that revenue number as high as possible. >> sure. >> look, the president's already been clear, ed. on cuts, he will continue to implement over the next ten years over $1 tril
mitch mcconnell filibustered his own bill. the senate minority leader filibustered his own bill that he had raised earlier about raising the debt ceiling. he called for a vote. democrats called his bluff and agreed to the vote. then he talked that bill to death. unusual here on capitol hill. lynn? >> all right, tracie potts there for us on capitol hill, thanks. >>> congressman chris van hollen of maryland spoke to ed schultz last night and discussed what democrats are willing to...
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meanwhile, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell prevented a simple majority vote to give the president unilateral power to raise the u.s. debt limit. senator mcconnell is demanding 60 senate votes for passage. president obama pushed for the power transfer in a most recent and main proposal last week on the fiscal cliff. >>> now no john mcafee. the millionaire software guru wanted in questioning in the neighbor's murder in belize. maybe you heard mcafee. got arrested in guatemala overnight. shouldn't come as much of a surprise here. the whole time supposedly on the run, he was handing out tv interviews like candy. but listen to this. now the mcafee is in jail, he is blogging from behind bars. the story just keeps getting more interesting, shall we say? more on the blogging here in a moment. but first, i have to play you this video. this is the video of his arrest. surprise-surprise. he was with a camera crew from vice.com when guatemalan police took him in. the charge, entering that country illegally. take a look here. exclusive video of vice.com. >> they're trying to arrest me. guatema
meanwhile, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell prevented a simple majority vote to give the president unilateral power to raise the u.s. debt limit. senator mcconnell is demanding 60 senate votes for passage. president obama pushed for the power transfer in a most recent and main proposal last week on the fiscal cliff. >>> now no john mcafee. the millionaire software guru wanted in questioning in the neighbor's murder in belize. maybe you heard mcafee. got arrested in guatemala...
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. >>> and finally, politico reports ashley judd is seriously considering a run for mitch mcconnell's senate seat in kentucky. judd has talked with new york senator gillibrand and a democrat being pollster. judd is honored at being considered. and that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. now a check of your national weather. we turn to bill karins. he has the weather channel forecast for you. which continues to be a little toasty. >> a little balmy. >> put the sunscreen on. nice. >> you probably needed it in some spots. so many stories of flowers and trees and green glass and lack of snow out there. but things have changed. this map shows you where it's gotten colder and warmer compared to this time yesterday. and you notice that chicago is much colder right now. you've returned back to normal winter conditions, while the eastern seaboard is even warmer this morning than it was yesterday. yesterday it was very warm. we are watching a few showers out there, too, but these temperatures, they're not going to get much warmer than this today. unlike yesterday where the sun came out
. >>> and finally, politico reports ashley judd is seriously considering a run for mitch mcconnell's senate seat in kentucky. judd has talked with new york senator gillibrand and a democrat being pollster. judd is honored at being considered. and that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. now a check of your national weather. we turn to bill karins. he has the weather channel forecast for you. which continues to be a little toasty. >> a little balmy. >> put the...
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senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, you just saw him there talking on the floor, he actually found himself, well, in unusual territory thursday. he actually had to filibuster himself. >> no, no, he can't. >> yesterday, senator mcconnell brought a bill to the floor to give the president greater power to raise the debt limit without support. but harry reid called his bluff, agreeing to a straight up-or-down vote. that then forced the minority lead y leader to filibuster his own bill. >> what we have here is a case of republicans here in the senate once again not taking yes for an answer. this morning, republican leader asked consent to have a vote on this proposal, because now i told everyone that we're willing to have that vote, up-or-down vote. now the republican leader objects to his own idea, so i guess we have a filibuster his own bill, so i object. >> is there objection to the original request? >> yeah, object. >> objection is heard. got whiplash. >>> in a surprise announcement also coming out of the senate yesterday, tea party favorite and conservative icon senator jim demint,
senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, you just saw him there talking on the floor, he actually found himself, well, in unusual territory thursday. he actually had to filibuster himself. >> no, no, he can't. >> yesterday, senator mcconnell brought a bill to the floor to give the president greater power to raise the debt limit without support. but harry reid called his bluff, agreeing to a straight up-or-down vote. that then forced the minority lead y leader to filibuster his own...
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mitch mcconnell tried to get the senate, harry reid to vote on the president's plan and harry reid said no. democrats are caling it a stunt. this is the president's plan we can raise taxes on rich and you don't have to cut spending and you can do all the things that he wants to do, and they don't nt that to come to a vote. there might be something there. i'm thking that might maybe make him on it and let the chips fall where they make. elections haveonsequences. at that right now. lou: i think we all agree about consequences. certainly. your thoughts on this? does it looto you right now like we are going to avoid this fiscal clif? the president, but the brilliant idea? it's interestinhow he does this. he initiates an ultimatum and the goes passi aggressive on everyone and withdraws from the field. it's really a bizarre and intriguing strategy whicch obviously has completely confounded republican eaders. >> yes, and the polls show that the american people are proud and -- probably ging to blend republicans now matter what happens. lou: slightly. >> therefore i think that is what you're s
mitch mcconnell tried to get the senate, harry reid to vote on the president's plan and harry reid said no. democrats are caling it a stunt. this is the president's plan we can raise taxes on rich and you don't have to cut spending and you can do all the things that he wants to do, and they don't nt that to come to a vote. there might be something there. i'm thking that might maybe make him on it and let the chips fall where they make. elections haveonsequences. at that right now. lou: i think...
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. >> margie, if you look at the fact that in the 2011 debt ceiling battle senator mitch mcconnell had this to say. he said, i think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage. you might take a chance at shooting. most of us didn't think that. what we did learn is this. it's a hostage that's worth ransoming. and it focuses theç congress o something that must be done. now, if this was their thought and attitude in 2011, do you think that's what we're dealing with, that kind of feeling, attitude of holding the hostage for ransom now? >> i hope not. it's bad for -- it's certainly bad for the economy and it's also been bad for the economy brand. it's the reason that they were unsuccessful in the polls and by two to one if we don't reach a deal for the fiscal cliff. and it's also the reason why you see voters very clearly support having the wealthiest pay a little bit more. it the one proposal that is consistently -- it received strong support from a ma sdwrort majority of reporters and they dig their heels in and say we don't support this. they are on the wrong
. >> margie, if you look at the fact that in the 2011 debt ceiling battle senator mitch mcconnell had this to say. he said, i think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage. you might take a chance at shooting. most of us didn't think that. what we did learn is this. it's a hostage that's worth ransoming. and it focuses theç congress o something that must be done. now, if this was their thought and attitude in 2011, do you think that's what we're dealing...
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states that were red states and the republicans should have won, there's a number of republicans up to mitch mcconnell, the republican leader who believed they would be in the majority today if not for some of the candidates. >> there's a little bit too much demoralization, everybody's so -- very similar to what it was like after the 2004 election, when george w. bush was elected and liberal democrats saying, oh, my gosh, we're never going to win another election, i always caution people are conservative like me, look, republicans can make a come back, they can win in 2014 and 16. you shouldn't abandon your basic principles, in my view that would be the worst thing to do. >> the tea party has said, look, we're for smaller government, less government interference. >> we have this historical battle between thomas jefferson and alexander hamilton going all the way back to that point, how much government do we want or not want. but on an optimistic note, we always seem to manage to get beyond this. >> congress is busy at work and just not on the fiscal cliff. ac, they've been committed to puttin
states that were red states and the republicans should have won, there's a number of republicans up to mitch mcconnell, the republican leader who believed they would be in the majority today if not for some of the candidates. >> there's a little bit too much demoralization, everybody's so -- very similar to what it was like after the 2004 election, when george w. bush was elected and liberal democrats saying, oh, my gosh, we're never going to win another election, i always caution people...
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mitch mcconnell attempted to bring up the president's plan for a vote in the u.s. senate, a plan $1.6 trillion in tax increases, hundreds of billions of dollars in spending cuts, a limited debt ceiling for the president. democrats blocked the vote and democratic republicans to the only reason is because the plan is unserious. this is washington, back to you. liz: we have a lower third banner that says we can probably solve this in a week according to the president. >> if he said if republicans relent on raising tax rates on $250,000 per year. david: always the question of if you'll take over the power, rich edson is they're following it all for us. coming up, more on what is happening in washington, the chief number cruncher on the heritage foundation here to tell us why they're increasing taxes 25%. liz: pandora shareholders may be singing the blues after the stock plummeted 20% at one point today after beating earnings estimates but admitting it will swing to a loss. ask any internet radio pioneer and ceo joe kennedy why he is whistling a much better tune despite
mitch mcconnell attempted to bring up the president's plan for a vote in the u.s. senate, a plan $1.6 trillion in tax increases, hundreds of billions of dollars in spending cuts, a limited debt ceiling for the president. democrats blocked the vote and democratic republicans to the only reason is because the plan is unserious. this is washington, back to you. liz: we have a lower third banner that says we can probably solve this in a week according to the president. >> if he said if...
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this is a mechanism that mitch mcconnell himself came up with last time to kind of get us out of this. so now, you know, you have had geithner talking about it, the white house talking about it, let's adopt the mcconnell provision. again, the republicans politically are becoming further and further isolated and seeming to be more and more like petulant children. >> david, you can speak but i don't want you to promote your magazine or anything you have written. >> i'll promote the show. >> okay. >> but the republicans, especially the tea party republicans, are going to get trapped in a corner. a lot of them are already saying if we give on the tax cuts, then we want to have a fight on the debt ceiling. we want to do something. and so you asked before, martin, why will they take this even though public opinion seems poised against them, even though the president is organizing the business round table against them. i go back to the old story of the frog and the scorpion. if you don't know it, wikipedia it. it's this their nature. >> now he's plugging for wikipedia. >> karen, jared, david
this is a mechanism that mitch mcconnell himself came up with last time to kind of get us out of this. so now, you know, you have had geithner talking about it, the white house talking about it, let's adopt the mcconnell provision. again, the republicans politically are becoming further and further isolated and seeming to be more and more like petulant children. >> david, you can speak but i don't want you to promote your magazine or anything you have written. >> i'll promote the...
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senate -- senator mitch mcconnell did not endorse john boehner's plan last week. guest: in this case, you've got substantial differences in party outlook. the tea party was always stronger in the house. what will work for senator mcconnell was running for reelection now may not work for house republicans. even if there is an agreement between speaker boehner and president obama, it is not clear it will be acceptable. host: david is on the phone from york, pennsylvania, republican line, good morning. caller: i'm calling from arkansas, actually. i am an attorney and i've tried to watch the actions of this president. i take into consideration the books he read and he uses the philosophers who taught him as he grew up. i really believe that based on the way he is trying -- that based on the way he has been trained, i think the president wants to go over the cliff because that will achieve the things he was buried he wants to break up the republican party. he wants to break its back and then he also wants to go over the cliff because he wants to have a financial crisis
senate -- senator mitch mcconnell did not endorse john boehner's plan last week. guest: in this case, you've got substantial differences in party outlook. the tea party was always stronger in the house. what will work for senator mcconnell was running for reelection now may not work for house republicans. even if there is an agreement between speaker boehner and president obama, it is not clear it will be acceptable. host: david is on the phone from york, pennsylvania, republican line, good...
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that is, instead of having nancy pelosi, harry reid, and the president and boehner and mitch mcconnell, you have two men in one room and that to me says an awful lot. the fact they released a statement that's plu conic. the lines of communication are open. this indicates to me a degree of seriousness we haven't seen to date and very important. now,ly also point out to you on the issue of balance and what former senator simpson said, i'm paying attention to the statements of business leaders right now. in particular, look at randall stevenson, ceo of at&t who said i think we need to avoid the fiscal cliff and a balanced approach and someone who's trended republican personally, that says a lot. it gives cover to the republicans in congress that this is okay to do in the name of american business. >> david, i want to quickly pivot back to entitlement reform. if the republicans have cover with the business world, let's play what erskine bowles said about entitlements and the president. >> i don't see why the president would want to negotiate against himself on this. you know, if the republ
that is, instead of having nancy pelosi, harry reid, and the president and boehner and mitch mcconnell, you have two men in one room and that to me says an awful lot. the fact they released a statement that's plu conic. the lines of communication are open. this indicates to me a degree of seriousness we haven't seen to date and very important. now,ly also point out to you on the issue of balance and what former senator simpson said, i'm paying attention to the statements of business leaders...
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. >> reporter: and so, there's no official proposal on entitlement reform in this moment but mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader interviewed last week and talked about some ideas that might get republicans interested in revenue, raising taxes on the table. higher medicare premiums for the wealthy, increasing the medicare eligibility age and slowing down the cost of living increase and no formal proposal but specifics he floated. >> message to both sides, may not be the time to find your spine and dig in. where's the christmas spirit? for heaven's sake, brianna. brianna keilar reporting live for us at the white house, thank you. for more details of what's in the opposing plans, that's what this is all about and means for us because we have to pay. be sure to check out cnn.com. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic
. >> reporter: and so, there's no official proposal on entitlement reform in this moment but mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader interviewed last week and talked about some ideas that might get republicans interested in revenue, raising taxes on the table. higher medicare premiums for the wealthy, increasing the medicare eligibility age and slowing down the cost of living increase and no formal proposal but specifics he floated. >> message to both sides, may not be the time...
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. >> brian: minority leadership mitch mcconnel >> no doubt about who the quarterback is on the democratic side it is the president of the united states . unfortunatelyy he keeps throwing interceptions. and we are moving back ward. >> brian: nfl network all politics. mark san ford will start. he did the sports cast with his hands in the back pocket. since then you are the friend. what is constance up to. >> gretchen: wow, and you get to sit in the center of the couch. >> good to see you. >> gretchen: do you feel an ination. >> brian: that's my normal. >> gretchen: either approximate mine or brian. >> kind of warm and can have they. >> you were going to say small. >> brian: as he said. he has a bigger butt than me. you have something serious though to talk about. not only your great career but something happened in late october that people are forkneting about. >> everybody talked about super storm sandy and all of the sudden is obama get elected and then petraeus and then the fiscal cliff and the problem with super storm sandy is an ongoing recovery and will take months and year to fully r
. >> brian: minority leadership mitch mcconnel >> no doubt about who the quarterback is on the democratic side it is the president of the united states . unfortunatelyy he keeps throwing interceptions. and we are moving back ward. >> brian: nfl network all politics. mark san ford will start. he did the sports cast with his hands in the back pocket. since then you are the friend. what is constance up to. >> gretchen: wow, and you get to sit in the center of the couch....
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mcconnell and thad cochran but they voted it down. the floor manager john kerry called it one of the saddest days in his nearly 28 days in the senate which he says is broken and dysfunctional. the chairman of the foreign relations committee john kerry joins me now. thank you very much. you spoke of this passionately yesterday and you've had an overnight to think about this, but the moment was clearly so compelling watching bob dole on the floor, wheeled in by his wife, the former senator elizabeth dole and you and john mccain and other war veterans calling for passage of this, it tell me your thoughts today? >> my first thought, andrea, hate to say this i can't believe you're already talking about 2016. i'm sorry to change -- >> i'm sorry about that too. >> that threw me at the outset here. >> my apologies. >> that said, let me say to you, yesterday was exactly as i described it, just a very, very sad day for the senate. because fear triumphed and politics triumphed, not the legitimate concerns of americans with disabilities who want
mcconnell and thad cochran but they voted it down. the floor manager john kerry called it one of the saddest days in his nearly 28 days in the senate which he says is broken and dysfunctional. the chairman of the foreign relations committee john kerry joins me now. thank you very much. you spoke of this passionately yesterday and you've had an overnight to think about this, but the moment was clearly so compelling watching bob dole on the floor, wheeled in by his wife, the former senator...
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not any points to mitch mcconnell. what about the folks that don't want to do that, they can't do that? they want to take it on the course of the school year and on my credit from the school of you we should've credit courses that we're not discriminating against people to allow skills. we have to have loan programs to reflect a 21st century student. the second thing i do is make sure students have more information and that's why sponsor the right to know before you collect which means before you take out the load students will be given information on how much ot to graduate. this is how much you can expect to make if you graduate at the super in this is how much you i you still want to get the philosophy major, that's fine. but it doesn't pay a lot of money into a 150 grand. >> not hurt republicans talking about these topics. louisiana governor bobby jindal -- [inaudible] >> i don't know about that. the challenge for the conservative movement and every movement to two your principles associate with her would ever test
not any points to mitch mcconnell. what about the folks that don't want to do that, they can't do that? they want to take it on the course of the school year and on my credit from the school of you we should've credit courses that we're not discriminating against people to allow skills. we have to have loan programs to reflect a 21st century student. the second thing i do is make sure students have more information and that's why sponsor the right to know before you collect which means before...
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anyway, a few points of mitch mcconnell. but what about the folks that don't want to do that and can't do that? they want to take a course, online course fiscal year an online credit the school over you. we should credit courses so we're not discriminating against allowing people to us acquire skills in that setting. i think we have to reform our loan programs to reflect the 21st century students. the second thing i would do is make sure we have more information. that's what i spotted the right to know before you go act. before you take out his welcome students will be given information about just how long it'll take you graduate, this is how much you can expect to make if you graduate with this degree, and this is how much you will have to go in student loans. if you still want to get their philosophy major, that's fine, but it doesn't a lot of money and you will '01 hundred 50 grand. >> we have not heard republicans talk much about this. the weekend governor bobby jindal said republicans needs to stop being stupid party. s
anyway, a few points of mitch mcconnell. but what about the folks that don't want to do that and can't do that? they want to take a course, online course fiscal year an online credit the school over you. we should credit courses so we're not discriminating against allowing people to us acquire skills in that setting. i think we have to reform our loan programs to reflect the 21st century students. the second thing i would do is make sure we have more information. that's what i spotted the right...
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i think that the proposal we have from mitch mcconnel this morning is to avoid a debt ceiling battle that cost our economy billions of $s. he came up with the requested in the first place. enge that's good, to give the president authority to raise the debt. so i think if what we need to do is look at his proposal. i just got it from my staff. we're going to have some meetings with the white house. we're reviewing it. it shouldn't be that hard, from what i know about it now, it's comparable to what we had the last time. but my question, i vnd had a chance to speak to our republican friend, mitch mcconnel, about whether he's going to filibuster his own idea or if we have to have an up -- if we can have an up or town vote. but it's a way to get the country back on the path to fiscal common sense. i would hope the house of representatives would look closely at what's going on with senators coming out saying, please, mr. speaker, do something about protecting the middle class, and we have all kinds of house members that have done the same. we have one house member who said he's thinking -
i think that the proposal we have from mitch mcconnel this morning is to avoid a debt ceiling battle that cost our economy billions of $s. he came up with the requested in the first place. enge that's good, to give the president authority to raise the debt. so i think if what we need to do is look at his proposal. i just got it from my staff. we're going to have some meetings with the white house. we're reviewing it. it shouldn't be that hard, from what i know about it now, it's comparable to...
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this from a spokesperson for senate minority leader mitch mcconnell saying the president wants the ability to raise the debt ceiling whenever he wants for as much as he wants with no responsibility or spending cuts attached. this is an idea opposed by democrats and republicans alike. it is a power grab that has no support here. so while we're stuck on thinking about tax rates increases versus revenue, this fiscal cliff issue much larger. talks about the debt ceiling and what that means for next year. treasury saying that sometime early next year they will run out of those extraordinary measures and the u.s. will have to raise the debt ceiling or default. back to you. ashley: very good point. rich edson in d.c. thanks very much. tracy: our next guest says, forget taxes. washington needs to focus on cutting entitlement spending if we want to prevent a battle between old and young americans. diana further got roth, senior fellow at man hat taken institute and joins us now. diana, seems to me raising the retirement age is the simplest thing you could do yet we're not talking about that. >> wel
this from a spokesperson for senate minority leader mitch mcconnell saying the president wants the ability to raise the debt ceiling whenever he wants for as much as he wants with no responsibility or spending cuts attached. this is an idea opposed by democrats and republicans alike. it is a power grab that has no support here. so while we're stuck on thinking about tax rates increases versus revenue, this fiscal cliff issue much larger. talks about the debt ceiling and what that means for next...
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mitch mcconnell the minority leader of the senate stood in the well of the senate and said, will president you won the campaign, congratulations, but they don't seem to like this ongoing campaign mentality coming out of the obama administration. >> there is no doubt. and i think republican leaders in congress are not going to like that. i think at this point they don't want to see a continuation of the campaign. they would like to see the president in the white house and negotiators sort of sit down and workout some of the road bumps here to avert the fiscal cliff. and they don't see campaign rallies, or campaign maneuvers as the way to do that. that being said i think the white house has set out its course here. i think you'll see something a lot different in the fiscal cliff negotiations from the white house than you saw in say the government shut down negotiations a year ago. you are going to see a much more campaigning, much more campaign-like president obama in the next month. jon: you know, some sort of even partial -- neutral observers are saying that the obama campaign won in part
mitch mcconnell the minority leader of the senate stood in the well of the senate and said, will president you won the campaign, congratulations, but they don't seem to like this ongoing campaign mentality coming out of the obama administration. >> there is no doubt. and i think republican leaders in congress are not going to like that. i think at this point they don't want to see a continuation of the campaign. they would like to see the president in the white house and negotiators sort...
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interesting all the other leaders, nancy pelosi, harry reid, mitch mcconnell, they're all out. in the end it will be the president and the leader of house republicans speaker boehner and they will have it make a deal both sides can live with. martha: for all intents and purposes john boehner continues to say that he will not raise taxes on that top 2%. that he wants that revenue to come in the form of changing deductions and loopholes. the president says exactly the opposite. so one side is going to have to give. any bet which side it is likely it be? >> on that issue i think the republicans are going to have to give. it was a key issue in the election. and remember, it's unsustainable i think politically for boehner, forget the economics of this. i know people say that should be the only issue here. let's talk about the politics of it. it is unsustainable for boehner and the republicans to be in a position where they are blocking a tax cut for 98% of the americans because they want it protect tax rates of the top 2%. that may be right or wrong on its merits but politically see
interesting all the other leaders, nancy pelosi, harry reid, mitch mcconnell, they're all out. in the end it will be the president and the leader of house republicans speaker boehner and they will have it make a deal both sides can live with. martha: for all intents and purposes john boehner continues to say that he will not raise taxes on that top 2%. that he wants that revenue to come in the form of changing deductions and loopholes. the president says exactly the opposite. so one side is...
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for the worst week, it has to be senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. i just -- going up there and filibustering against your own bill is never a good thing. >> yeah. >> he really kind of set the stage. >> kind of leaves you head scratching, like, what? okay. mike, how about you? best and worst. >> let's start with worst. for obvious reasons we'll pick dee jay shock jocks and prank calls. you don't want to come close to making light of that. that's just horrible. for best week, back to what we were talking act, jim demint. my gosh, he's one of the least flawed members. he's going to go to heritage foundation where his predecessor knocked down a million bucks last week. he'll be one of one instead of one of a hundred. >> let's give mike viqueira a big hand. he did a good job with our best. you near the big three. thank you very much. i think you're going to have to come see us again. that's a wrap. i'll see you here tomorrow at noon eastern. up next, craig melvin. [ male announcer ] take dayquil... [ ding! ] ...and spend time on the slopes. take alka-sel
for the worst week, it has to be senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. i just -- going up there and filibustering against your own bill is never a good thing. >> yeah. >> he really kind of set the stage. >> kind of leaves you head scratching, like, what? okay. mike, how about you? best and worst. >> let's start with worst. for obvious reasons we'll pick dee jay shock jocks and prank calls. you don't want to come close to making light of that. that's just horrible. for...
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harry reid and mitch mcconnell when back-and-forth on fiscal cliff issues and a proposal to raise the debt ceiling. here is part of their exchange. >> yesterday afternoon, i came to the floor and offered president obama's proposal on the fiscal cliff to show that neither he nor democrats in congress are acting in good faith in these negotiations. with just a few weeks ago before a potentially entirely avoidable blow to the economy, the president proposed a plan the members of his own party will even vote for. he is not interested in a balanced agreement, not particularly interested in avoiding the fiscal cliff, and clearly not interested at all in cutting any spending. with the president is really in, as we learned just yesterday, is getting as much taxpayer money as he can, first by raising taxes on small businesses who he believes are making too much money, and then on everybody else. not so he can lower the debt or the deficit, but so he can spend to his heart's content. for months, the president has been saying that all he wanted to raise taxes on the top 2% so he can tackle the d
harry reid and mitch mcconnell when back-and-forth on fiscal cliff issues and a proposal to raise the debt ceiling. here is part of their exchange. >> yesterday afternoon, i came to the floor and offered president obama's proposal on the fiscal cliff to show that neither he nor democrats in congress are acting in good faith in these negotiations. with just a few weeks ago before a potentially entirely avoidable blow to the economy, the president proposed a plan the members of his own...
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. >> republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also talked about the so-called fiscal cliff on the floor of the senate. >> it was widely assumed among republicans that president obama and democrats back toward to avoid it. that was the common goal, or so we thought. over the past couple of weeks, and has become increasingly clear to many of us that we were simply wrong about that. incredibly, many top democrats, including the president, seemed perfectly happy to go off the cliff. that is why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies than actually negotiating a deal. that explains why the president is stubbornly insisting on raising tax rates when he himself said just last year that you raised more revenue from capping deductions than closing loopholes. this is not about the deficit for them, or balance. it's about an ideological campaign that most americans thought would have ended on november 6. the president said timothy geithner of beer with a proposal -- up here with a proposal that was more a provocation than a proposal, to be perfectly frank about it. it
. >> republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also talked about the so-called fiscal cliff on the floor of the senate. >> it was widely assumed among republicans that president obama and democrats back toward to avoid it. that was the common goal, or so we thought. over the past couple of weeks, and has become increasingly clear to many of us that we were simply wrong about that. incredibly, many top democrats, including the president, seemed perfectly happy to go off the...
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how long is the white house willing to wait to hear from speaker boehner, you know, mitch mcconnell, for their sort of volley back? >> reporter: hi, brooke. well, they're saying ready anytime. the clock is ticking and it's ball's in the republicans' court. here is what jay carney had to say a few minutes ago. listen to this. >> making vague promises about achieving revenue through capping deductions or closing loopholes, simply doesn't add up to a serious proposal. we haven't heard which deductions they would cap or which loopholes they would close. >> so that's the white house's position. now, they are waiting to hear about what the republicans would do, what kind of detailed proposal they would offer. the republicans, brooke, for their part are insistent they want to hear about the president's willingness to do entitlements. how much more they would do to cut spending and whether the white house would be willing to scale back on some of those extra spending measures, more dollars the president wants the government to put out next year, that were in some of secretary geithner's prop
how long is the white house willing to wait to hear from speaker boehner, you know, mitch mcconnell, for their sort of volley back? >> reporter: hi, brooke. well, they're saying ready anytime. the clock is ticking and it's ball's in the republicans' court. here is what jay carney had to say a few minutes ago. listen to this. >> making vague promises about achieving revenue through capping deductions or closing loopholes, simply doesn't add up to a serious proposal. we haven't heard...
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mitch mcconnell in the papers this morning reportedly saying there are no formal talks haven't. those talks continue behind-the- scenes. the washington post this morning reports in a news conference last month obama suggested he might let the top rate rise to levels somewhat lower than a 39.6%. that's the washington post this morning. below that, governors say the fiscal cliff would hurt their states' economies. several governors met at the white house yesterday and with political leaders to say something needs to be done or their economies and on the state level will be heard. -- be hurt. let's go to walter in new jersey, independent caller. good morning. caller: good morning. i don't know what's wrong with these people, because they have to come to some kind of agreement. the gop has to give ground, taxes wouldybody's go up just to save 2%. it just does not cut it. it is a bad move politically and bad for the country. host: polloi in johnsonville, virginia. -- floyd. caller: i was thinking about the fiscal cliff. i don't think that's the problem at. the problem is when we fell
mitch mcconnell in the papers this morning reportedly saying there are no formal talks haven't. those talks continue behind-the- scenes. the washington post this morning reports in a news conference last month obama suggested he might let the top rate rise to levels somewhat lower than a 39.6%. that's the washington post this morning. below that, governors say the fiscal cliff would hurt their states' economies. several governors met at the white house yesterday and with political leaders to...
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mitch mcconnell has something out there from the middle of 2011 that's a potential compromise, where you don't have the fight about the debt ceiling every time the president proposes it. congress can with 2/3 override it and the republicans can maybe say they're not happy with the progress or maybe you have triggers along the way so you don't have the debt ceiling fight every time as long as the expense agreement cuts that have been reached are hit along the way. there's a potential compromise on that one as well. it's a very important topic and it's not going to get done if both side don't walk away. >> neither side can do this by themselves. >> no. >> both of them can go over the cliff. >> but neither side can reach an agreement. >> with real consequence. >> i know. but even howard dean said we might have a recession, but it would be worth it because we'd finally clear the debt. >> i'd like to see some real math. "the washington post" laid out that tim geithner i think is a great guy, but $44 billion in his savings that he found was just because they pushed a payment out at the end
mitch mcconnell has something out there from the middle of 2011 that's a potential compromise, where you don't have the fight about the debt ceiling every time the president proposes it. congress can with 2/3 override it and the republicans can maybe say they're not happy with the progress or maybe you have triggers along the way so you don't have the debt ceiling fight every time as long as the expense agreement cuts that have been reached are hit along the way. there's a potential compromise...
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it doesn't help that it was mitch mcconnell who put this in place last year and, of course, now calls it outrageous power grab. when you give this administration an inch, it takes ten miles or a marathon. that's what they're doing here. >> gretchen: so you say it's a violation of the coalition. i want to move on to what you're deeming the merry croniness, christmas? >> merry croniness, that's right. >> gretchen: you know what? it saddens me to dismantle the word christmas by saying croniness. but explain what it is. >> it's christmas for obama bundlers. this is the annual ritual, the patronage rewards for his biggest 1% elitist donors and there have been reports now over the last week that anna winter, the fashion famous vogue editor who raised hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars for team obama, not just this year action but during the first term as well, is being considered for an ambassadorship for britain. and this is along with several other bundlers who have raised each more than half a million dollars for obama over the last campaign cycle, who are being considered for
it doesn't help that it was mitch mcconnell who put this in place last year and, of course, now calls it outrageous power grab. when you give this administration an inch, it takes ten miles or a marathon. that's what they're doing here. >> gretchen: so you say it's a violation of the coalition. i want to move on to what you're deeming the merry croniness, christmas? >> merry croniness, that's right. >> gretchen: you know what? it saddens me to dismantle the word christmas by...
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mcconnell. then the republicans came back, which speaker boehner said was a sound response. $800 billion in tax rev knew. with eric cantor and paul ryan's significant but positive -- >> congress can prevent all of this by passing a tax hike on the first $250,000 of income. 98% wouldn't see taxes go up by a single dime. the wealthiest americans would get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income and families everywhere would enjoy peace of mind. >> most polls show 60, 60% of americans agree, raise taxes on the wealthiest 2%. he won the election. >> he talked about that during the campaign however congressman randy forms of virginia, a republican, he's floating a theory which is that the president doesn't have to compromise. he might not even want to compromise because if there's no compromise, the president gets what he wants. >> the president doesn't really want to get an agreement or compromise. he wants to get his way. that's why he won't come to the table with any serious proposal and s
mcconnell. then the republicans came back, which speaker boehner said was a sound response. $800 billion in tax rev knew. with eric cantor and paul ryan's significant but positive -- >> congress can prevent all of this by passing a tax hike on the first $250,000 of income. 98% wouldn't see taxes go up by a single dime. the wealthiest americans would get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income and families everywhere would enjoy peace of mind. >> most polls show 60, 60% of...
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mcconnell and he let out an audible chuckle at the proposal. i'm curious if timothy geithner has the same sense of humor. >> actually we have not only timothy geithner, but john boehner in an exclusive interview at the top of the hour, these are the two point men. boehner representing house republicans and any bill is going to have to get through them and geithner representing the president. you're exactly right. when geithner presented his plan to mcconnell, mcconnell says he burst out laughing and boehner you'll hear at the top of the hour, one of the words he uses is flabbergasted. what they were shocked at not that the president was going to call for more tax increases, he campaigned on that, but he came in with such a small set of spending cuts, about 600 billion dollars total in entitlement cuts and spending cuts and also had a demand that congress would give up any say from now on forever in raising the debt limit, which of course has always been a tool of congress, both democrats and republicans have used to oppose the president's polic
mcconnell and he let out an audible chuckle at the proposal. i'm curious if timothy geithner has the same sense of humor. >> actually we have not only timothy geithner, but john boehner in an exclusive interview at the top of the hour, these are the two point men. boehner representing house republicans and any bill is going to have to get through them and geithner representing the president. you're exactly right. when geithner presented his plan to mcconnell, mcconnell says he burst out...
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. >> republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also talked about the so-called fiscal cliff on the floor of the senate. >> when the two parties were set down to discuss the so-called fiscal cliff, it was widely assumed by republicans that obama and democrats badly wanted to avoid it. that was the premise that any possible agreement hedged on. that was the common goal, or so we thought. of the past couple of weeks, it has become increasingly clear to many of us that we were simply wrong about that. incredibly, many top democrats including the president seemed part perfectly happy to go off the cliff. that is why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies and actually negotiating a deal. it explains why the president is now stubbornly insisting on raising tax rates when he himself said just last year that you could raise more revenue from capping deductions and closing loopholes. them or balance. it's about an ideological campaign that most americans thought would have ended on november 6, and that's also why the president sent secretary geithner up here last week
. >> republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also talked about the so-called fiscal cliff on the floor of the senate. >> when the two parties were set down to discuss the so-called fiscal cliff, it was widely assumed by republicans that obama and democrats badly wanted to avoid it. that was the premise that any possible agreement hedged on. that was the common goal, or so we thought. of the past couple of weeks, it has become increasingly clear to many of us that we were...